Continue Or Not To Continue

Continue Or Not To Continue

How could I help you?


Sure. You can start with explaining why you are fed up. Give us lots of details.


You know those little tasks that I couldn’t solve for myself and saw their solutions - kills me inside.
I can’t imagine myself coding lines of codes while sticking to those tasks. I’m totally sure that little kids can solve them very easily.
And concerning predestination. I can compose some music but it’s also not so good. I’m tearing apart between these ideas: whether continue to learn “the web” or to give up and start over again.


You said you are “good at everything”. Then you are good at helping others?
We all need help sometimes.


If you hate programming, then you should quit. Why would you want to pursue a career in a field you hate? There is nothing wrong with deciding it’s “not for you”. Maybe your skills of interests lie elsewhere. There is no shame in not being a coder. It doesn’t mean that you aren’t smart, it just means that it isn’t for you. My wife is one of the smartest people I know but would be the worlds worst coder.

But if your frustration is because you really, really want to be a coder but are frustrated about how difficult it is - then join the club. We all have times like that.

I don’t know if a “new language” is the right idea - the concepts are pretty universal. Maybe FCC isn’t for you. FCC requires a lot of self motivation and a lot of research skills. But these are good skills for a coder to have.

My advice would be to start chipping away at what is frustrating you. I keep a list called “Things I Don’t Understand” next to my computer. It’s a long list, but getting shorter. They’re things I ran into that didn’t quite make sense. Usually I got though them but didn’t have the understanding I would have wanted. When I’m bored, I start reading about them or watching youtube videos about them. If I get really stuck, I ask the forum of SO. Just start chipping away.


irritating ?
it has architectural quivers, but I wouldn-t call them sores or irritations of any kind.
Any coding language has their own shortcomings.
I’d say it has a tough curve, but once you dig deep into the meat of the ocncepts, you can take on the world!!!

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I think you don’t need any advice because you said, you are good at everything. :grinning:


When I started programming I wasn’t sure if I liked it. I went into it because it’s an in demand skill that I am good at. (Also, I do consider myself good at most things I work on like you).

For the first few months I wasn’t excited about it. Pushing into arrays. Styling with CSS. Nothing exciting. I went from FCC to an online bootcamp for 2 months that I quit.

Now I am doing Colt’s course on Udemy. I LOVE IT. What’s the difference? You build awesome projects. You follow along programming several really cool projects and he get’s you to this point very fast. At least for me it was fast because I already knew a lot of the foundation at this point.

I think there is a certain amount of skillset you acquire in programming and at that point it becomes exciting because you realize you can build soo many cool things.

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Programming is not all about the web.

I can imagine that people like programming very much but absolutely hate the web environment. Do not fear.

When you know your math consider to learn C and C++. There are many companies in the real tech-sector that are searching for people with these skills. So your next job: program the engine emission of a Volkswagen and this time without the fraud :slight_smile:


What drew you to programming in the first place? Was it the idea of being able to make software, or make new things in general? Because coding isn’t the only role in making software.

Maybe try focusing on design instead? Like, visual design for the front-end, something like that?


I think that a “design role” is a luxury role, when the company is making less money, you are too (if not fired).

Every time I write a program I am creating something new. So it is not about writing code but it is about delivering something new or better (how small or big the program is? Not important).


Well there are definitely jobs in UI UX design out there. Very important if you ask me.

I think that a “design role” is a luxury role

Totally disagree. The success of a product or app will depend on a good user experience. That’s design.

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Do you know about Linux? From its inception, it’s been pretty great code-wise. But it took forever to get much of a market share as a desktop OS, despite being free and awfully stable. Why? It’s not the “first mover advantage” Microsoft had, which more often than not isn’t important–we know this because Apple, with its fabulous design, got a pretty decent market share.

The problem was that Linux was very much a nerd OS for ages. And what made it a nerd OS was the fact that you had to know what you were doing, because the UI wasn’t very good even if the command line was. More people are using Linux as a desktop OS these days, because the UI design has gotten better. Unfortunately, making it better took long enough that Windows has a huge lead in what applications it can run, so Linux still has to catch up with that.

That’s how important design is. You can have a superior product, but if it isn’t easy to use and doesn’t look nice, no one will want it anyway. Design is only a “luxury role” in companies that don’t recognize this. And if they fire the designer because they’re making less money, that’s another nail in their coffin–you want to get into a different job ASAP anyway.

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Yes, big companies like Oracle, Microsoft etc need their designers, no doubt. But I was referring (but did not mention that) to the smaller software companies ( 1 - 50 employees). In the Netherlands a company pay an awful lot taxes to hire somebody. When it goes bad it is for the manager clear that costs must be cut. Then some of the employees will be fired.
He has to choose: who are extemelly important and who are not. It depends of course on the situation. But as I see it, most programmers are loaded with tasks.


I would try The Web Developer Bootcamp on Udemy or go a completely other route.

Try learning Python and then come back to web programming. It should be a lot
easier if you know Python.

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I always got that feeling at times I feel like I should stop but I always ask my self what make me start FCC in the first place and that is being a better version of my self but financially and career-wise.
just focus on that my friend and follow the fcc program it very good


So. Here are my 2 cents. Programming is either something you love or hate. If you are on the fence, build something you want. Decide if it brought you joy. If it did, keep at it. If not, not everyone is a programmer find what you love and do that.

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Never back down, Never Quit; Be positive always; Learning is an art, you know what inside contains you ate present, so go with it along with learning new concepts.
Sometimes it happens Oh! What happen What is my Future so on bla bla … Live your present but think of future so learn new things.


He maxiwer,

I understand the feeling. If you want to stay in programming, try something else in that field. Programming is programming, whatever language you are working in. To me, at least, syntax is not so hard but understanding what problems I am actually trying to solve with that syntax, that is hard.

Learning other langues helps me to explore the same (very interesting comparisons!) problems or different fields of computing that can help me fill in the blank spaces that I suspect are there that I am not even sure of, let alone where they are. That horrible hazy feeling becomes more tangible.

I’ve done CS50, an edx Harvard course (you can roll in for free). It is hard, you need to work, I learned a little C which helped me look at scope issues from a different angle, so has python.

In the end you are practicing a way of thinking, you are always honing the same skills.

But do you really like to program? You are always going to have to continue learning, competition is fierce and you really need to dig in. Maybe you have just worked to hard and you need a refreshing break (a quilting course maybe?, growing plums?). Maybe your interests lie elsewhere. Use this experience to understand what it is that you don’t like about programming and what you would like to do. Take some time for that. If you can find out what you truly enjoy, chances are you will be much better at that. I know, the job market is hell these days, but do not let fear and worry for your mum be your only guide. If you didn’t have to find a job, what would you be doing? Would you like to build, play, socialize?

Take care,

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To me programming is such a diverse field, and there is SO much that you can do…

I recently spoke to someone who I had been following their progress in web development for a while. I was shocked to learn that he had jacked it in, but his answer was sensible and I understood completely. He just said: “I want to program, but web development isn’t the way in for me. I’m not getting a sense of achievment out of it”.

He is now focusing more on network security and getting a lot more out of it. Maybe focus on another line of programming?

For me, I get my satisfaction out of developing AND designing, and allowing designs to come to life as well as learning new technology is what gets me going.

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